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..why hate us for being gay?

I look around...we aren't any different.
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We rise
We love.

But not if we are brought down.
We cannot help who we love, whether they be male, female, or none of the above; Love Is Love, No Matter What.

So, the next time you say, "That's gay!' "Fag! "Slut." "Homo!" "Queer!" Please, stop and think about this;

How are we different from you?
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homosexual "sin" and logical fallaciesthe concept of calling homosexuals sinful is, in my opinion, completely ignorant and childish, and so is the concept of saying that gay Christian activists are distorting the Bible
for one, these anti-gay, anti-trans* people are putting themselves in the place of God as the judge. while it is technically correct for a Christian to warn a non-christian about the dangers of sin and not accepting salvation, but this dispute continues into the realm within the bounds of Christianity. Christians are fighting amongst themselves about whether or not homosexuality is a sin. the heterosexual Christians are looking down on the homosexual ones, calling them "vile sinners" and claiming for them that their salvation is false because they can "continue unfazed by living in the homosexual lifestyle"
secondly, I find it disgusting that they point the finger at gay Christians who search the Bible for a pro-gay message and claim they're teaching a "false doctrine." if these people even did half the rese

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Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan come from ?
Student : From … GOD …
Professor: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
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Student :Yes
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
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In first period, I told my friends what I had written. They supported me fully, one of the reasons I love them. I had told them a week or so before, and they promised to accept me then as they did now. That didn't ease the worry though.
When English came (the last period of the day) I was utterly terrified. Just thinking about reading my story to the class threatened to send me into an anxiety attack. "I can't do this." I said to my best friend. "yes you can!" she replied. "But I don't want to!" I almost yelled, thanking god that no one noticed. "You can thoug

Oh happy day.So, in case you haven't heard the news, Rick Scrotum, Oh I mean Santorum, Wait, no I don't.
Anyway, That douche bag has dropped out of the election! :iconfuckyeahplz:
I, as of now, am incredibly happy hearing this news.
One idiot down!
Now if you excuse me, I am going to go celebrate for the rest of the day. ;*

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Because of her fucking parents...
Most of you understand and know what has happened...
It's a horrible feeling knowing that yesterday may be the last time you ever see the love of your life...
I hope she knows I'll wait forever for her...
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Discrimination Written on their WristsI am not sick. I a not a representation of your so called sin, so don't you label me as such.
You are just as mortal as I am.
You are not allowed to pass judgement on the purest part of my soul. My love.

Discrimination Written on their WristsI am not sick. I am not a representation of your so called sin, so don't label me as such.
You are just as mortal as I am.
You are not allowed to pass judgement on the purest part of my soul. My love.

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Although a select few will be upset to hear this most of you won't care because well really you don't pay attention to my account anyway.
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source: wouldjesusdiscriminate.orgProslavery [proponents] charged that abolitionists took [historical-critical interpretation of the Bible] to distort scriptural plain sense. The proslavery clergyman John Henry Hopkins, Episcopal Bishop of Vermont, bemoaned:
"For I can imagine no transgression more odious in the sight of God, and more sure to forfeit His blessing, than the willful determination to distort His revealed Word, and make it speak, not as it truly is, but as men, in their insane pride of superior philanthropy, fancy it ought to be."
Bishop Hopkins believed that a misguided sense of philanthropy had replaced the Bible as the standard of truth.
In one of the most revealing passages in proslavery literature, Bishop Hopkins further argued this point. Hopkins himself was racked by a moral unease about slavery's goodness; nonetheless, he remained convinced that the hermeneutics of plain sense was the key to divine truth. He yielded his own conscience to biblical authority:
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Youth, sexual orientation and discrimination

by ~Siluriformes, Nov 3, 2011, 3:43:05 AM
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Hi

I've always wondered at what age other people realized that they aren't heterosexual, as well as the journey that got them to that point. I know of people who were "obviously gay all their life" as well as people who battled with confusion and or denial till much later.

What made me think of bringing it up now is because of an incidence that I heard of recently. For privacy's sake I cannot repeat it, but it troubled me enough to think about a couple of concepts. What it broke down to is that young people with alternative sexual orientations are sometimes treated immorally because of covert homophobia that exists within parents, schools and other higher authorities in a young person's life.

So I have a couple of points and questions I would love feedback on if anyone is willing to give it. Many of them relate to the incidence I mentioned earlier.

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?

Thinking about it, the same questions would be just as interesting if you adapted them to "other than cisgendered". Feel free to answer them that way too if you'd like.

Thank you!

Regards,
Cat

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~Homssutotuli Mar 28, 2013

1.) Around 14 years old.

2.) It is used only when someone needs an argument to underrate other. Even children can tell how they feel, they're not stupid.

3.) Found sexuality x before sexual interaction.
I think many might have knew, but ignored. Mother guessed right, didn't support.

4.) Society doesn't count.

5.) Not only a young people, but these people should as well have a right for correct knowledge, sensitivity education and support. If that's not working, they should be placed as far as possible from young people, so they won't cause damage.

6.) Yes, every kind. Mostly treating as invisible and ignoring needs, because "society doesn't have to fit in your abnormality".

~PrometheusGaveUsFire Oct 15, 2012 Student Traditional Artist

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?
Probably about 12, although I think I first knew that I was at least different from the other kids when I was 7 or 8.

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?
I think its BS

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?
I didn't need to experiment with sexual interactions before knowing. And if I had, I would've been in some deep trouble if anyone found out.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?
My mother sent me to counselling, but its definitely not going the way she most likely intended it to

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?
As my girlfriend would say, "they're just a bunch of jerks who need to mind their own business". I'm trying non-violence....I swear.

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?
No...Not yet....

~Karvamato Sep 30, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?
- I was about 11 or 12 when I realized that I had a huge crush on my best friend. It scared the hell out of me, but I told her about it. She stopped talking to me. I was really depressed and started thinking that maybe I was just confused, that I didn't know my feelings, that I was actually straight like everyone else.. All kinds of bullshit like that. I explained those things to her and things pretty much became normal. After that I've noticed that I don't like guys. At the moment I have a crush on another girl and I find females overall attractive. I can't imagine myself being married to a man in the future. I'm almost 15 now and I'm quite sure about myself. I came out "again" to my friends a while ago, but my family doesn't know.

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?
- I think it's offensive. Do people really have an age when they are ready to "decide" about who they are? If a heterosexual teen is sure that he/she likes the opposite gender, why can't LGBT teens be sure about themselves too?

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?
- I guess no. I've never had a boyfriend or a girlfriend, nor I have kissed anyone. I just know who I am.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?
- My best friends told me that.

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behavior?
-It's absolutely horrible and wrong. People should let everyone be who they are.

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?
- Not yet.

~Karvamato Sep 30, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Oh, and I apologize my poor English. It's not my native language (:

~conradkcat Sep 7, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?
I realised I was bi at the age of about thirteen, I think.

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?
I think it's a rubbish idea- anyone can decide something about themselves. It's up to them, and it doesn't matter what age, whether they're twelve or a hundred and twelve.

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?
I have kissed four girls, as an experiment. All of them wanted an idea of what it was like to kiss someone, and as I'd had the most experience, they thought I was a good place to start practicing. Out of the four, one of them thinks they're bi, and I think the other three are straight. I was twelve with the first two, and thirteen with the second two.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?
I'm still quite young, and I haven't told many people, so I haven't run into any really negative attitudes. Two of my friends said 'don't label yourself too early', but other than that have been quite positive.

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?
I think it's terrible, and more unnatural to force someone to change their sexuality than to embrace their homosexuality/non-heterosexuality.

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?
Not really, but not many people know, so I know it will happen eventually.

~WilhelmKlein Aug 6, 2012 Student

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?
Around 13 i figured out I was bi.

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?
Never too young to know.

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?
Nope. I have to hide it because I live in a place that doesn't accept any one unless they are exactly like them.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?
I never told anyone but my friends. I have to hide it from all the adults.

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?
I think they should mind their own business.

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?
I was never discrimated because of my sexuality (no one really knows). It was mostly because of my religion and choice of clothing.

~Piddleton Aug 3, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

1.) I began wondering about my sexual orientation at the age of 13. At the time I thought I was a lesbian, then at 14 I realized I'm transgender, and at 15 I finally quit making idiotic excuses and admitted that I like boys just as much as I like girls, and settled on pan/bisexual.

2.) I don't think there's any age you can just pinpoint as "too young to decide." For one thing, it's not a decision, and besides that, different people are different. As you said, some people practically know from birth, and some people are unsure of their gender or orientation as adults. It's different for everyone. What I do know is that when I've heard that, its always been from people that don't want to accept the fact that I'm queer.

3.) I did not experiment, myself. I never liked the idea of just experimenting on someone. Knowing my 13/14 year old self, I probably would have fallen madly in love, only to find that it really was just an experiment to the person I had experimented with. As far as my gender goes, I definitely experimented before long before ever associating the word transgender with myself, but it didn't leave the safety of my bedroom until I knew.

4.) I was never told to get counseling for my sexual orientation, but I was most certainly told that I was just experimenting. Funny how the same people that told me I was just experimenting were also the people that told me I was too young to know what I wanted. Also, the only counseling that's ever been suggested to me concerning my gender has been the good kind of counseling that I'm required to get if I ever want to get hormones or surgery, nothing bad.

5.) I don't think anyone should try to intervene or change another person just because they're different. That's just not right.

6.) I've been pretty lucky as far as going to a rather liberal high school in a rather liberal city. There are a few homo/transphobic jerks there, but if teachers see it, they reprimand them, the same way they'd reprimand any other kind of bullying. Every classroom has a little rainbow Safe Place sticker on the door. It's a pretty fantastic school.

~DarkForceWolf Jul 31, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?

The age of 12 when I went into 6th grade.

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?

I believe its bull! I always knew that I was different! So if you KNOW then it shouldnt be implyed.

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?

No I didnt because I see girls in a different way then my heterosexual friends.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?

No adult knows.... yet anyways.

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?

I think there just scared of something they ether can't understand or isn't "normal"

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?

No not yet atleast. Only a couple close friends know and they welcomed me with open arms.

~ChocolateQuill Jul 31, 2012 General Artist

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?

-- Hmm. Interesting question. I technically knew that I was interested in both boys and girls when I was very, very young (like 5 or 6) but I didn't truly define it until my freshman year of high school.

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?
I dislike that statement, because I think that 'realizing' who you are attracted to can happen at any age. However, due to physical maturing (puberty-which can cause some confusion) and mental maturity, as well as mental state and surroundings (morals, religion, etc) the age can vary greatly from maybe 13 all the way until the last days of someone's life. So no, teenagers are not too young to decide.

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?

I was sure before I had sexual interactions with whatever gender. If my parents found out...well. They'd just ask me if I was safe with what I was doing and if I was really emotionally ready.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?

Nope. Thank goodness. That would have messed me up ><

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?

Absolutely horrible and immoral and they need to back off. I am sooo passionate about this subject. ESPECIALLY when non-family members do it....

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?

Yeah I have. ><

~Aysanth Jul 28, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

1.) At what age did you know that you are not heterosexual?

10 years old I always had a hard time figuring out why I had to love boys and not just girls. Or why gender even mattered, I thought that if I liked someone why should I be picky about gender?

2.) What do you think of the statement "They are too young to decide" being applied to teenagers?

I think it's a bit silly, It's not like once you turn 20 you are magically wise and know everything about your sexuality.

3.) Did you experiment with having sexual interactions (e.g. kissing) with other genders before you were sure of your sexual orientation? If so, at what age? If your parents, school, or other authority figures found out, how did they react?

From the time I was 12, and only my mother knows of my sexuality, she doesn't accept me because she doesn't think it's real ><.

4.) When you were young, did anyone try convince you that your sexual preferences were "just experimentation", or that you needed counselling about it?

No, I never thought to ask about any of that, I talked to my therapist about it but she never did anything about it.

5.) What do you think of schools, religious leaders or extended family trying to intervene when a young person exhibits "other than heterosexual" behaviour?

I don't like it, they shouldn't box someone up in their own beliefs. If it makes them uncomfortable they can just remove themselves from the area.

6.) Did you experience any kind of "permissible discrimination" (prejudice that society seems to think is okay because of the circumstances) as a young person with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual?

Yes, actually, my own mother holds a prejudice over me. She believe pansexuality isn't a true sexuality and compared me to the group of men who date boys, and cougars. :/

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